Sign the Petition To Stop a Transphobic film in Frameline LGBT Film Festival
We, the multigendered LGBT community and its allies, declare that there is no space for hatred and transphobia in our community institutions. We reject the notion that transsexuality is anti-feminist or anti-gay. We demand that our community artists be held accountable for the messages that they deliver, and that artistic projects not be allowed to hide under the mask of “sparking dialogue” when the intention is actually to divide and demonize. We further ask that Frameline’s LGBT Film Festival and other LGBT institutions refuse to show the hateful movie “The Gendercator,” which makes no attempt to engage in actual dialogue. We assert that the dialogue that most urgently needs to happen is not around the validity of trans people, but instead around the double standards that trans-related material continues to endure within our own community. Go to www.leftinsf.com to sign the petition in the comment section. You must enter the anti-spam numbers to add your name in the comments.
Update: Frameline did the right thing and decided not to screen the film. Hurray for us…

May 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Robert Haaland, Co-chair Pride At Work
May 20th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Gayle Roberts, Fundraising Counsel
May 20th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
it’s not clear that is the place to sign the petition to stop a transphobic film in frameline’s lgbt film festival but that is the intent of my posting.
May 20th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Dr. Rae Greiner, UC Berkeley
May 20th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Beth Gilomen, University of Illinois
May 20th, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Zak Szymanski
San Francisco-based writer
May 20th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Jen Gilomen
Bay Area Video Coalition
a nonprofit media arts center supporting independent filmmakers (and not transphobic media)
http://bavc.org
May 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Alex Grange, Chicago, Il.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
J. David DePasquale, New York City, NY
May 20th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Victor Ciccone
Portland, OR
May 20th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
Mike Kivisto
Transman
Tacoma, WA
May 20th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Tobi Hill-Meyer
Lane Gender Task Force
Eugene, OR
May 20th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Moscow, Russia
May 20th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
Dylan Gregory
Graduate Student
Austin, Texas
May 20th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Dylan Gregory
Graduate Student
Austin, Texas
May 21st, 2007 at 12:00 am
Zarah Ersoff
Graduate Student, UCLA
May 21st, 2007 at 12:02 am
Rocco Kayiatos
muscian
San Francisco CA
May 21st, 2007 at 12:03 am
T.J. Jourian, Nicosia, Cyprus
“TransGeneration”
May 21st, 2007 at 12:31 am
signature.
May 21st, 2007 at 12:38 am
Perth, Australia
May 21st, 2007 at 12:42 am
Carly Earnshaw, M.A.
Marriage and Family Therapist Intern
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 12:56 am
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 12:57 am
UK
May 21st, 2007 at 12:59 am
San Francisco City College Trans Student
May 21st, 2007 at 2:11 am
Beth from CA
May 21st, 2007 at 2:11 am
Vice President of School’s GSA
High School Student
FtM Transgender
May 21st, 2007 at 2:47 am
Bryn Kelly
Organizer, Camp Trans 2006
May 21st, 2007 at 2:47 am
C. A. Samuelson
May 21st, 2007 at 3:37 am
Nixi Chesnavich, RN
FtM
May 21st, 2007 at 4:46 am
Frankie Hill
Graduate Student and FtM
Northampton, Massachusetts
May 21st, 2007 at 5:13 am
Jenna Alexander
Royston, GA
May 21st, 2007 at 5:18 am
S.E. Robaczewski
Americorps Member, Graduate Student, FTM
Baltimore, MD
May 21st, 2007 at 5:20 am
Nikki Gamache
Sunderland, MA
May 21st, 2007 at 5:25 am
Nicole Lamb
Olympia, WA
May 21st, 2007 at 5:28 am
As a transperson and a feminist, it is not transpeoples’ obligation to challenge the gender binary. This film will just breed hate, especially when shown at an LGBTQ film festival.
Where did the “t” go in the acronym?
May 21st, 2007 at 5:30 am
Oakland, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 5:36 am
As a bisexual transguy - who some days isn’t even sure what guy or girl means to me - I object to a film where transpeople are whittled into some stereotype of always reenacting hetero lifestyle. Just as the gay community has a wide variety of people, so to does the trans community. And to suggest otherwise shows a serious lack of knowledge.
May 21st, 2007 at 5:36 am
Michael Alexander
Boston, MA
United States
Activist and licensed educator
May 21st, 2007 at 5:42 am
Philadelphia,PA
May 21st, 2007 at 5:47 am
Lisa Rae Dummer
Board Chair, Transgender Law Center
Vice President, Transgender San Francisco
May 21st, 2007 at 6:04 am
Board President SF People’s Organization
May 21st, 2007 at 6:10 am
Eric Brown
Winston-Salem, NC
May 21st, 2007 at 6:14 am
Joe Wear
cigendered queer soffa type personage
May 21st, 2007 at 6:16 am
Alicia E. Goranson
Novelist, Author of Supervillainz
Franklin, MA, USA
May 21st, 2007 at 6:20 am
Eric M. Fink
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 6:26 am
Hasan Shafiqullah
Brooklyn, NY
May 21st, 2007 at 6:27 am
Liam Woods-Smith
layabout, wingnut, loose cannon
May 21st, 2007 at 6:34 am
Joan Roughgarden, SF
Nicky Meinzer,SF
May 21st, 2007 at 6:42 am
Nathan Sharon
Medical student, trans man
Texas
May 21st, 2007 at 7:12 am
Music teacher, transman
May 21st, 2007 at 7:18 am
Rafael Mandelman
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 7:19 am
Larry Roberts
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 7:27 am
Nathan Purkiss
San Francisco, CA
(While I’m a strong supporter of artistic freedom, I’m signing this because it’s important that our LGBTQ film festival not show works that target any of our LGBTQ communities for hostility, or foster ignorance about our communities. In the directors note, the director discusses her film saying “Things are getting very strange for women these days - More and more often we see young heterosexual women carving their bodies into porno Barbie dolls and lesbian women altering themselves into transmen…” this statement shows the film’s anti-transgender bias and should not be supported at our LGBTQ film festival.)
May 21st, 2007 at 7:38 am
Zwazzi Sowo
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 7:40 am
Naomi Prochovnick
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 7:42 am
Rob Dunbar
Vancouver Island, BC
May 21st, 2007 at 7:45 am
graduate student, trans-identified
May 21st, 2007 at 7:52 am
Jess Pinder
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 7:56 am
Liam Thorne
Writer
Gay FTM
May 21st, 2007 at 8:14 am
Bob Brigham, hell raiser
May 21st, 2007 at 8:17 am
Martha Hawthorne
Member, PAW
Member SEIU 1021
May 21st, 2007 at 8:19 am
chaia milstein, ally
May 21st, 2007 at 8:19 am
As the mother of a transgendered child, I am dismayed by the ignorance surrounding this issue, appalled that a film festival would sanction/reward anything so unscientific and potentially harmful about a topic that is medically recognized, and frightened that people ‘believing’ the content of this film will feel justified in discrimminating against transgendered people.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:19 am
Former Co-Chair,
San Francisco Pride At Work
May 21st, 2007 at 8:24 am
stylist. gap inc.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:26 am
partner of an FTM who is also sick and tired of stereotypes and ignorance of gender identity
May 21st, 2007 at 8:40 am
Professor of Women’s Studies
Filmmaker, “Screaming Queens: The Riot at Compton’s Cafeteria
Former Executive Director, GLBT Historical Society
May 21st, 2007 at 8:43 am
COLAGE
May 21st, 2007 at 8:49 am
Fine arts student, trans man.
Canada.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:51 am
jack taylor
artist
san francisco
May 21st, 2007 at 8:53 am
Education Faculty & Law Faculty
University of California, Los Angeles
May 21st, 2007 at 8:55 am
Tim Durning
Treasurer
Harvey Milk LGBT Democratic Club
San Francisco, CA
May 21st, 2007 at 9:00 am
Oregon
May 21st, 2007 at 9:13 am
Esperanza Macias
Health Initiatives for Youth
May 21st, 2007 at 9:14 am
Evin
Activist, College Student, and FTM
Portland, OR/Philadelphia, PA
May 21st, 2007 at 9:30 am
Gay Activist and former NYC Human Rights Commissioner
New York, NY
May 21st, 2007 at 9:30 am
FTM Activist
Gender Identity Discrimination Investigator
San Francisco California
This is not the right venue for such expression for theis particualr fil’s statement. Perhaps more careful scrutiy on behalf of Frameline in the futurein the future will avoid such unncessary pain among trans and gender variant people.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
san francisco, ca
May 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
This is not the right venue for such expression for this particualr film’s statement. Perhaps more careful scrutiny on behalf of Frameline in the the future will avoid such unncessary pain among trans and gender variant people and our allies.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:32 am
FTM Filmmaker
NYC
May 21st, 2007 at 9:36 am
FTM and Bi activist
Gender Identity Discrimination Investigator
Transgender Cultural Competency Trainer
Assertively militant Queer
This is not the right venue for such expression for this particualr film’s statement. Perhaps more careful scrutiny on behalf of Frameline in the the future will avoid such unncessary pain among trans and gender variant people and our allies.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:37 am
Joseph J. Weddell
Tea Specialist
Cambridge, MA
May 21st, 2007 at 9:55 am
Pepper Mint
San Francisco, CA
Bi, poly, and kink organizer and activist
May 21st, 2007 at 9:56 am
Jimmy Horowitz
Austin, Texas
Information Technology
May 21st, 2007 at 9:57 am
Becky Gregory
Newspaper Editor
May 21st, 2007 at 9:57 am
Wayne Gregory
Clinical Psychologist
May 21st, 2007 at 9:58 am
Chris Farrell
Austin, Texas
Psychotherapist
May 21st, 2007 at 10:48 am
Brian Leubitz
Blogger, SF
So, I’m totally in agreement with Nathan @ Comment 55. Artistic freedom is vitally important, just ask people who had to deal with Rudy Guiliani and his anti-artist tactics. However, LGBT organizations need not display non-friendly works of art.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:05 am
Jesse Carr
Oakland, CA resident
feminist trans-man
May 21st, 2007 at 11:06 am
I fully believe this “film” is ridiculous and absurd. It is not fair to target one way of life, one gender, one culture and create a “film” dipicting this gender or culture as something of an abomination.
We are real, feeling, individuals and deserve respect. What we have done, what we are doing, is being absolutely true people. We are living are truth and not telling lies. This is honorable. It is immoral and wrong to try and tell the world that we are somehow wrong or odd, or fake, or an insult to the population. I am appalled that anyone would make just a discriminatory and horrible “film” about people whom you really know nothing about.
Get educated. And then you can talk to me.
If you are free in this world then you know nothing about what it is to be transgendered and you have no right to deny us our right to life, to whole lives. We are human beings.
Don’t speak about what you don’t know or understand.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:09 am
This is a travesty.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:12 am
We should not tolerate transphobia!
May 21st, 2007 at 11:12 am
I had a few spelling mistakes, so this is the correct version:
I fully believe this “film” is ridiculous and absurd. It is not fair to target one way of life, one gender, one culture and create a “film” dipicting this gender or culture as something of an abomination.
We are real and feeling individuals and deserve respect. What we have done, what we are doing, is be absolutely true people. We are living our truth and not telling lies. This is honorable. It is immoral and wrong to try and tell the world that we are somehow wrong or odd, or fake, or an insult to the population. I am appalled that anyone would make such a discriminatory and horrible “film,” when you are telling a lie about people whom you really know nothing about.
Get educated. And then you can talk to me.
If you are free in this world then you know nothing about what it is to be transgendered and you have no right to deny us our right to life, to whole lives. We are human beings.
Don’t speak about what you don’t know or understand and do not try to tell the public lies. It is not justice, it is just wrong. This film maker, producer, director, and actors….they should all be ashamed.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:30 am
Kaiden Taylor -Genderqueer/FTM
independent film-maker and concerned LGBT citizen.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:36 am
Hedeon Fletcher - Toronto
graphic artist + transman
May 21st, 2007 at 11:38 am
Esteban Rodriguez - FTM
San Francisco, CA
Dimensions Clinic for Queer & Questioning Youth
There should not be space for “art” that dehumanizes and promotes fear and ignorance about trans people at LGBT events.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:51 am
feminist transmasculine person
PLEASE remove this film from the Frameline lineup
May 21st, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Ainsley Hill
Oakland, CA
Please remove this film from the line-up!
May 21st, 2007 at 12:17 pm
Katra Briel
Vallejo, Ca
Interesting concept and in fact it has at least incited us to comment. I take it this is not what the director intended and I hope that in the future she will consider using deeper thought and maybe a little research involving transgender people in exploring her concepts. In the end, the Frameline LGBT Film Fesitval is not the proper venue for this film.
May 21st, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Please remove this film from the lineup.
-Christian Bull
May 21st, 2007 at 12:19 pm
photographer filmmaker
ftm
Brooklyn, NY
May 21st, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Hamilton, New Zealand
Psychology Grad Student
Hate and intolerance for others are learned behaviours. One way to stop teaching hate and intolerance is to stop promoting films such as this. Stop the hate!
May 21st, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Please do not allow this film to show in the film festival.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Genderqueer/transman
Community Activist
San Francisco, CA
I ask the to artist to take a step back and look at her community and see the many diverse poeple in it, and realize there’s enough outside scrutiny from the world. And also Ask frameline to do the same, there is no excuse for such martial that offends and sets stereotypes that allows poeples ignorance to fester to be supported.
May 21st, 2007 at 1:48 pm
I would ask that this film be re-evaluated as far as its intended or perceived message. As a trans-woman I feel there is enough marginalization, sensationalizing, and vilification within society as is without receiving it from with the GLB community. We are only asking for the same courtesies that gay and lesbians have asked for.
— Jayna Longenbaugh
May 21st, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Please pull Gendercator from the lineup and put the
T back in GLBT… in permanent ink please.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:06 pm
Hate has no place in an LGBT festival.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Bi/LGBT Activist + Parent
Brooklyn NY USA
I’d like to ask that this film be reconsidered for showing in this particular venue. While being open to the idea that the filmmaker was only trying to make a comment on the problem of people being forced into narrow gender roles and that she meant no disrespect to anyone, I feel that insufficient thought was given to how the storyline could be (mis?) interpreted in transphobic and hurtful ways.
If (for instance) the film showed “heroic” LGBT and “Str8 but not narrow” people all working TOGETHER to rescue her “simple minded, sporty type” protagonist from the evils of “rigidly binary” “sex roles and gender expression” I’d be a lot more receptive to the idea that no harm was meant and that this is not just “Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival” redux.
I am even more disturbed when I read the director’s notes where she talks about “lesbian women altering themselves into transmen” and “distorted cultural norms are making women feel compelled to use medical advances to change themselves”. This makes me feel that she has an extremely superficial “pop-culture” view of trans-persons and doesn’t actually regard their lives as somehow “real” or as “worthy” as anyone else’s.
May 21st, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Genderqueer/ftm
Florida
May 21st, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Wright Institute
May 21st, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Todd Whitworth
Brooklyn NY
Transman
May 21st, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Mina Schwartz
May 21st, 2007 at 7:36 pm
J. L. Foster
www.jlfoster.biz
Gay male, GLBT supporter
May 21st, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Please remove this film. Transgender people deserve respect and dignity and especially from within their own community.
May 21st, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I would like to ask that this film be re-evaluated, and consideration be givin to how it afects the Transgender population. As a Transwoman, I feel that our feelings are often pushed aside and used as the bad end of a joke. Even if the film maker was trying to place a possitive image, the situation has a lot of room to be taken the wrong way. I ask all artists to consider the consiquences of ther actions. How does it benfit the GLBT cause if we use each other as jokes and Villans?
We are people too, and deserve to be treated with respect.
May 21st, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Vancouver, BC
May 21st, 2007 at 10:43 pm
Colin M. McConnell
Alaska
May 21st, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Alethia Hostetter
Lane Gender Task Force
Eugene, OR
May 21st, 2007 at 11:32 pm
transguy, social worker, activist, outreach volunteer
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:27 am
As artists and activists, we need to take responsibility for the messages we put out into the public realm, even when our intention is to spark dialogue. As a producer and promoter of queer film, Frameline has a responsibility to recognize harmful material and keep it out of the festival. If this film took a similar take on bi, lesbian, or gay issues, I can’t imagine it would ever be allowed in the festival. Frameline: please take this film out of the festival and take this controversy as sign that all of us non-trans folks need to keep educating ourselves about trans issues.
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 am
Stop the hate against transgendered people, this film has no place at a LGBT festival
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:33 am
Of course the film has the right to be shown, but as others have said in a queer film festival, we have a repsonsibilty to frame our issues in the most postive light. Please pull the film
Lisa Scheps
Advocate
Austin, Tx
May 22nd, 2007 at 4:57 am
We don’t choose our gender any more than we choose our sexual preferences. It’s how we are wired. Crouch should know this as well as anyone, nor does one cause the other. Sexual preference doesn’t determine true gender, nor does true gender determine sexual preference. So why would crouch make a movie to suggest that we have sex changes to become heteronormal? What about folks like me, a post-op M to F lesbian? I never found men very attractive as a “man,” and I still don’t. Crouch isn’t treating the condition of being TG as having its own fundamental validity.
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:55 am
Austin, Texas
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:02 am
Vol. Coordinator against transphobic film
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:44 am
Krista Smith
Program & Student Life Coordinator, Institute for Civic Leadership, Mills College, Oakland California.
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:48 am
As a therapist who has worked with transsexuals for 24 years, it is not hard to see that his film appears to be an exercise in one person’s fear of facing her own gender issues. To encourage that fear in others is simply wrong. Please do not include this film in the festival.
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:50 am
Pedro Julio Serrano
Communications Coordinator, National Gay and Lesbian Task Force
Male Chair, Unid@s, the National Latin@ LGBT Human Rights Organization
President, Puerto Rico Para Tod@s
(organizations listed for identification purposes)
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:41 am
Tommi Avicolli Mecca
May 22nd, 2007 at 7:47 am
Queer transman
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:14 am
Trans man and artist against showing this film in a venue which is meant to be inclusive and supportive of transpeople.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:16 am
I wish I felt astonished at this travesty. Unfortunately, it seems many people who should know better are happy to forget the *T* in lgbT rights. Lets keep trying to understand each other and show respect regardless of our differences. Please pull this film. This is inappropriate at this venue.
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:25 am
I’m against censorship, but the Frameline festival during Pride month seems the inappropriate setting for this film. (Perhaps instead it should be shown as part of a forum on conflicts and prejudice within the LGBT community, followed by a panel of discussants that includes members of the trans and lesbian communities.) Would a film with an anti-gay or anti-lesbian bias be shown at Frameline?
Dan Karasic, MD
President, Association of Gay and Lesbian Psychiatrists
Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, UCSF
and psychiatrist for the Transgender Life Care program at Castro-Mission Health Center
May 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 am
Musician, Director Tranny Fest
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:05 am
K.R. Roberto
Colorado
May 22nd, 2007 at 10:49 am
Will Budreau
May 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 am
Emily Flavin
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:29 pm
james d.j.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Philadelphia
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Suzie, queer art student, england, UK
May 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Ace Golliher
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Bloomington, IN
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Jess Snodgrass
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Seattle, WA
May 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm
DJ C
May 22nd, 2007 at 8:22 pm
trans-phobia is unacceptable. this film should not screen. especially in an lgbt film festival.
May 23rd, 2007 at 5:50 am
Transpeople are our people. lgbT dammit!
May 23rd, 2007 at 6:42 am
I am a M-to-F woman. as diffucult as life is, I believe that a film like this only makes more problems.
You should stop any “Transphobic” film at your film festival. “The Gendercator” is not a film that help us.
Rikkie Weldon…
May 23rd, 2007 at 7:27 am
Update: We won. Frameline did the right thing and decided not to screen the film.
May 23rd, 2007 at 8:45 am
I want to know how many of you who have stirred yourselves up into a lather have actually even seen the film? Thanks for nothing. Frameline thanks for the memories.
May 23rd, 2007 at 10:04 am
thank you frameline for keeping this one space safe for positive queer images.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:04 am
Thank you to the community for standing up and I’m not at all surprised and very happy for Frameline’s response.
May 23rd, 2007 at 11:15 am
To Carol (comment #153):
I obtained a copy of the film, viewed it, and corresponded with Catherine Crouch before making any comment.
I decided to support this petition because Frameline, as an LGBT inclusive organization, is not the appropriate venue for this sort of work. The film expresses a long-familiar anti-transgender polemic: the idea that transsexuals are anti-gay, anti-feminist political reactionaries who collude with repressive social and cultural power; furthermore, that transsexuals are complicit in the non-consensual bodily violation of women.
The ideas in the film echo the rhetoric of Janice Raymond’s Transsexual Empire (1979), which goes so far as to claim that Nazis invented transsexual surgery, that transsexuals are agents of a patriarchal conspiracy to replace biologically female women, to accuse all transsexuals of being rapists (because they represent an “unwanted penetration” of women’s space), and to argue in a eugenic fashion that transsexuals should be “morally mandated out of existence.”
Raymond’s book, and the film, engage in the paranoid fantasy that what transsexuals do to their own bodies is somehow a threat to the bodies of nontranssexual women, that the very existence of transsexuals will somehow “force” a nontranssexual woman to have her body violated through some sort of compulsory and unwanted transformation–it’s the same structure of fantasy that imagines that all black men want to rape white women, that gays are predatory pedophiles, that communists are secretly infiltrating our government, that terrorists are swarming across our borders, that drug pushers are constantly trying to hook our kids, and so on ad nauseum. The film projects fear onto an “alien other” and then condemns that other for reflecting back that fear to the person who has projected it there in the first place.
The director’s comments on the website betray a profound ignorance of the on-going, sophisticated conversations among feminist, queer, and trans activists and scholars about medicalization, pathologization, body modification, and other related issues–and frankly, for that matter, about misogyny and sexism within transgender communities and discourse. Her remarks suggest that she assumes she’s knows what best for other people, and that people who have made different choices than her, or felt different needs, or found other ways to be happy, self-fulfilled, productive members of society, are “distorted.” Sadly, that’s a move that liberal feminism has made many times, and it has only and always served to reinforce the privilege of the most advantaged populations of women, and to extend the repressive apparatus of sovereign power to the detriment of those on the margins. I have no qualms about working as actively as possible against such forms of feminism, and refuse to let such forms of feminism claim to represent feminism in its totality.
But to return to the matter at hand, I personally think that sponsoring a “special screening” of Gendercator in San Francisco, perhaps sponsored by Frameline as part of its public process for dealing with the controversy, contextualized by a moderated panel discussion and presentations on the history of the issues involved, would provide an excellent opportunity to advance discussion on this matter. I guarantee, however, that any discussion in San Francisco would not be the one the filmmaker seems to think she would instigate. She would not be bringing the truth to poor confused transsexuals who would suddenly say, “Gee, it never dawned on me that I was embodying a distorted cultural norm.” She would be further mobilizing an already highly articulate, politically engaged, progressive community of queer/trans people to hold a homocentric GLB(T) to higher standards of accountability on trans issues, and to further isolate an increasingly isolated strand of anti-transsexual lesbian feminism.
For that reason, while I support Frameline’s decision to pull the film as inappropriate for their mission, I truly regret that the film will not be shown. I hope it finds another venue where it will be subjected to the rigorous critique it so richly deserves.
Susan Stryker
May 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pm
San Francisco, CA
May 25th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
I completely agree with Susan Stryker’s wise words on this. Why they bother to add a T to LGB often puzzles me - politically correct window dressing?. But three cheers for Frameline for responding.
May 25th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Transgender_Straight_Alliance_Worldwide@yahoogroups.com
May 26th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Stop the hate.
May 26th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Thanks to Frameline for doing the right thing. I now hope other GLBT Film Festivals will follow suit and not give this artist a platform for the expression of virulently transphobic views. This is not an issue of free speech or censorship; it is an issue of hatred and prejudice. Don’t set back the clock by supporting this anti-trans film.
May 26th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Greenwich, OH
May 26th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
San Francisco
I have not seen the film, but…
I agree with (156) Susan Stryker and (136) Dan Karasic. I would like to attend the “Special Screening” “Moderated Panel” and see the film.
Censorship=No
Transphobia=No
Film=Yes, (Not at that venue or time, for reasons stated) (already pulled, moot point I guess)
Open Discussion Moderated Panel=Yes
Terrilynn Cantlon
trans Woman
San Francisco, CA
June 1st, 2007 at 7:14 am
Wait! How many of you have even seen this film? And you are blacklisting it? Is it so upsetting to consider a point of view that doesn’t toe the line? Personally, I can’t wait to see the film. Science Fiction has a long history of exploring social issues, and I welcome an ongoing discussion about the themes raised in the film, or what I’ve read of it.
What if gender is actually a social construct? And its expression is politically/socially transmitted? What if Crouch has a good point? Or makes one or two interesting observations? She is not your enemy.
Until the seventeenth century it was a medical truism that male and female bodies were different only in heat. That a uterus was actually an inverted penis. And that if they got hot enough, women would become men spontaneously. Gender was a social matter but bodies were not classified the same way they are today. Times change and with them our beliefs and fixations.
Yours for a gender free future.
July 12th, 2007 at 9:31 am
Beginning on Friday July 13 you can listen to an interview with Catherine Crouch who has made nine films about gender, all of which have been accepted to Frameline. http://www.shoestring.org - Movie Magazine International, San Francisco. The interview aired live in San Francisco July 11.
Frameline saw the film unlike the majority of the people who signed this petition (six of which actually saw the film). Catherine is an artist and her film is a fantasy not a documentary. She has made films about lesbians for years and is an esteemed filmmaker. Efforts are being made by Ondine Kilker to bring her and The Gendercator to San Francisco
http://www.ondinekilker.com/
Catherine has made herself available to interviews and is open to discussion. Rather than contempt prior to investigation see the film first before falling in line with uniformed bias. It is the nature of art to question and use metaphor to explore life, how many artists have been silenced and branded because their work was misunderstood, and not even seen?
July 12th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Seriously, how many of you have seen the film before signing the petition?
July 12th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Critics of transgender theoretical assumptions are entitled to be heard. For example, why is it that a crossdresser is entitled to be regarded as a heterosexual woman when dressed whereas a gay men than crodssdresses is simply a drag queen and not entitled to be seen as a woman? Why is that men that suck tranny cock and get fucked by trannies are entitled to still be regarded as heterosexual men even tho they enjoy the same sex as gay men? It is increasingly separatist transgender theory that divides our community, not the concerns of the gay community about homophobia in transgender rationale.
July 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Thank you to FrameLine!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
So everything that’s controversial should be banned?
What, like trans-sexuality ?
In Sweden, where I come from, we argue when we don’t agree, we don’t ban.
P.s: I don’t have issues with homo, bi or trans-people.
September 30th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
what is this making up words thing anyway? don’t you know how to speak your own language, english? transphobia means your phobic about trans which means nothing other than a very abstract idea “across” (anything)…trans what? trans-portation? trans-fusion? trans-continental? that is, “trans” is a suffix of words which means “across” (loosely)… if you’re going to make up words as you go along, then TRANSGENDERPHOBIA would be the CORRECT reformation of the language…well, when the thought and idea police are on the CORRECT side, well then I guess that makes it all perfectly all right to order people what to think, and to ban any opinions except those deemed correct. scary stuff. i find that much of this language invented to justify silencing anyone who doesn’t think in the correct way reveals a deeper level of poor education, lack of critical thinking, superficial understanding of historical perspective…yes HIStorical…comes from the GREEK word “historia” which does not mean “HIS” story as some ignorami have asserted, but rather “to inquire into” …. but then, apparently it’s enough to go be what something appears to be than what it really is. Yup, some people get HYSTERICAL when this is pointed out to them. I think it was once said “reality is a matter of interpretation” … who was that? some german guy in the mid-twentieth century?